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Now this isn't me complaining but this is just me asking a normal genuine question about their presence on Mina Rau instead of the Imperial Army for the planet.

Granted this is more of a debate since well The Stormtroopers making presence on backwater worlds like Tatooine in the Original Trilogy and even in Rogue One despite being well the elite army in case if everything goes wrong. But at least with those cases. The Stormtroopers were looking for the droids on Tatooine while one could argue that Saw Gerrera's presence on the planet result in the Empire sending in the stormtroopers instead of the Imperial Army.

Now they did sort of did kill two birds with one stone where they had both Stormtroopers and the Imperial Army on Ferrix for the Ferrix Riot. But still would make a lot more sense at least lore wise in sending or at least have the Imperial Army for the Imperial Supply Census on Mina-Rau considering the Stormtroopers are well the Empire's elite in case things get really serious.

Like I said this isn't me complaining just a curious question that I had after watching the first arc of Andor Season 2.

that’s it. that’s the post. peak cinema. sob every time. as soon as the band starts playing im done for.

Do you think they’ll address Andor’s missing sister? Any predictions?

At the end of episode 3 in season 1 we get the juxtaposition of Andor being carried off-world to start a new life - one with Marva and Clem and the other with Luthen. This season it's Andor behind the stick with Bix and Wil.

Season 1 Andor is unsure of where he is going and what he will do, but I have a feeling Season 2 Andor knows exactly where his next steps will lead him.

I just thought it was going unnoticed/unappreciated in the review/react spheres

I'm starting to think TG intends for a line to be drawn here, though we only have two points right now: in S1 the Pre-Mor security guys in the office, when looking up info about Kenari, refer to it as an "Imperial" mining disaster despite the fact that it pre-dates the Empire proper.

Likewise, Dedra refers to the orphanage she was raised in as "Imperial". Again, this would have taken place during the Clone Wars, before the Chancellor became the Emperor.

I think we're seeing examples of how totalitarian states revise history-it becomes rude, even dangerous, to refer to what came before-the Empire simply is, and pretty much always has been, in charge.

Thoughts?

I’ve always hated her since she got her boyfriend killed in season 1 and treated Cass like it was somehow his fault. The reason she’s was written to be sexually preyed on this season is to fabricate sympathy for her and/or draw away from the fact that she’s quite literally nothing more than a love interest for Cass. She’s easily the weakest part of the show imo. Kill her off & nothing changes.

It’s a planet with similar size to earth (same gravity), and the land all seemed to look the same from space. Cassias is coming back in a different ship from the ship that he left the planet with. How did he know where their trailer was? Did Bix activate a something that would allow Andor to follow the signal down?

I’m seeing a TON of back and forth about how SA doesn’t belong in Star Wars.

All I can say is this: What about “Slave Leia”? How is that not a fairly explicit example of the same implications? Is it more “excusable” because Jabba isn’t a human? Why is that hunky dory, and the Bix asssult an aberration?

Would it have been better for the Andor haters if the Imperial just put a chain around her Bix’s neck and made her wear a space bikini?

Yes, it was a tough scene to watch, but I didn’t find it out of place in the SW universe at all.

This is definitely the adult series for Star Wars couldn’t imagine my nephews understanding this show. I’m tasked with rating movies, series, and video games for them.

Sure they make great clothes, I’m wearing one of their robes right now. But has anyone realized how cheap those Gormans are? And so snooty. Their women aren’t half as pretty as they think they are. I’m getting sick of them all.

Obviously that’s not the case because he’s dead but he does look like he was casted to play a younger version of Tiaan Jerjerrod.

... Syril's dad. Eedy calls him an "adventurer", and what does Sculdun call the acquisition of the Chandi Merle? An adventure. Boom, foreshadowing. And who's very good at disappearing, just as Syril's dad did? That's right, Luthen.

You may laugh now, but just wait for the heartbreaking scene when Luthen realizes that the lack of a positive father figure has pushed his son quite literally into the arms of fascism.

I paid Disney for their awesome $10 ad tier to watch the new season on my TV and got hit with ad rolls every 10 minutes as if Disney were some crappy video essay YouTuber trying to milk every last nickel and dime out of my viewing retention. I have Netflix's ad tier subscription and it is wayyy less invasive than whatever was going on in this. I'm pretty sure I watched about 4 ads per one episode, with each ad being 1:30 seconds long. So in a 40 something minute long episode, I watched 6 minutes of ads, meaning 15% of my viewing experience that I'm paying solely to watch Andor is spent watching Goldfish commercials and weird illegal medical advertisements. (sidenote: ad based subscription tier models are absurd and play out like a parody of a bad Black Mirror episode)

But whatever, right? It's just some ads, I can deal with that. The real issue occurred when I made the fatal mistake of trying to use Disney+ on my PC. During Andor Season 1, I had a cool setup with my widescreen monitor where I turned the lights down and played out episodes on my PC, kicked back a few beers, it was nice. Well, it turns out, you can't do that anymore! Sorry bud, we took that feature away! Because now, Disney is literally throttling their services for PCs and capping their streams at 720p!! Amazing! Have fun trying to watch the show on a computer or laptop! You'll quickly realize that the whole thing looks less like a multi-million dollar production, and more like a Minecraft letsplay that was rendered in Vegas Pro 8 and uploaded on YouTube in 2011. But wait, it gets worse! Because on top of all of that, Disney used to have an app for Windows where you could get around this limitation, but recently they just made it so that the app runs on Microsoft Edge!

So you CANNOT watch Andor Season 2 on PC, unless you can get really drunk and try to imagine what the show should look like in your mind. You have to watch it on either your phone or a television. I'm sure there have been plenty of other posts about this issue, but man, this one really got me. I feel like such a chump paying Disney to flash a bajillion ads on my screen, interrupting my experience every 10 minutes, only to go and try watching it on my PC and essentially be told, 'No.'

we saw a lot of them already especially considering the wedding and the wheat planet hide out.

were still missing almost all the ghorman scenes with cassian and i didnt see the wide opening shot of a city with train.

i dont wanna rewatch every trailer so lets compile what we remember.

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Seriously, a whole scene of silk presentation during a SUPER IMPORTANT meeting?

Seriously? Is Andor handsome? Do you really need that line to be there?

Seriously? "- It's 15 guns pointing at you! - Why would you tell him how many of us are in here? 🤡" "Got something to eat in here?🤡" Why rebels act like some evoks or hobbits? Do you really need that cringy comedy reliefs?

What's wrong with cameraman? I never pay attention to camera, cause usually the filming is smooth, but here the cam is so shaky even in scenes with no fighting or something like that (i.e. rebels check Andor's Imperial fighter). And that overuse of depth of field (i.e. Motma and others in the streets, than Luthen arrives).

How this is the best SW series? It's worst!

P.S. It's so boring, I didn't even understood does Andor have a sister and is he searching for her? (That's what he said at the very beginning of season 1).

In talking with the creepy Imperial officer, Bix claimed that Cassian was her husband - in two different conversations. It made me wonder if she was doing the unfortunately necessary thing of turning down a guy's attention by invoking her husband or if they actually had gotten married.

Bix had the Imperial officer pegged as a creep from the beginning, so she could have just lied about it in an effort to get him to go away peacefully.

Assuming the Star Wars universe legal system functions anything like ours, there are legal protections afforded to spouses, but I can't see how that would be of any benefit to Bix or Cassian right now. Cassian is a wanted fugitive after the events of Rix Road, and Bix probably is as well. Getting married wouldn't help that.

We do know that they were previously in some kind of relationship before Timm, but Bix seemed pretty exasperated with Cassian most of the time. The time gap between Season 1 and Season 2 could have allowed some reconciliation.

When Bix woke up with the nightmares, B2EMO said that Cassian would want to know. Of course, he cares about her, but it made me wonder if the nightmares are worse/more frequent when he is gone on a mission.

Any thoughts?

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I was born in the 90s and grew up with the prequels. My absolute favorite movie of all the franchise is Rogue One, then EP3, then EP5.

Hated EP9, doesn’t exist to me.

From all the disney era content, Andor is definitely the best that has been put out there. It isn’t just an awesome SW TV show, it is an awesome TV show, period.

I’m curious for all the people bitching that Andor isn’t what Star Wars is supposed to be, it doesn’t feel SW, etc. What is THE Star Wars you are referring to?

I've always been amazed by the lack of population scale writers and producers utilize in the Star Wars universe.... So Ghorman has a smaller population than Switzerland? The entire planet?

“she said you were cute”

“we started flirting… I like that”

“oh so you’re a healer”

“you and all your women”

Don’t know why but every time Cassian’s rizz is brought up it just cracks me up we all love a good ladies’ man rogue

I didn't notice this on my first read but there is a comment that TG made me reconsider how much influence Disney has had on Andor.

Rolling Stone-You're moving on from the Star Wars universe to do other things. Given that you're not moving forward in this world, what kinds of things can be done in the Star Wars universe that haven't been done?

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TG-They are doing a horror movie, I think, now. I think that Jim Mangold and Beau Willimon are working on an origin story for the Force, like a 25,000-year-B.C. thing. And anything that works is gonna work. The stuff that's gonna be lame is gonna be lame. But there's no reason not to play with this. I know there are people that feel like, "Oh, my God, why can't we just have the thing we had before and have it be great?" And I can't answer that question. I don't know. It's hard to do? People are tired of it? I don't know what the reason is, but there's a lot of real estate there. There's a lot of beings in the universe.

Look at Mandalorian, look how far away we are from Mandalorian. And yet they work. Mandalorian made our show possible. Skeleton Crew — holy shit, man. That's like a whole different flavor. It feels right. Smells right. I don't know. It is not my problem. But if it was, yeah, I think they want to think about it that way.

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Andor across both seasons made the Rakatan invasion a focal point for 2 artifacts Luthien has procured.

Luthien art gallery has had a bunch of easter eggs in his shop that had zero exposition.

Yet the Kyber Crystal and the Chandi Merl were given a lot of attention in both seasons by being used as tools to motivate characters receiving the gifts to do something important for the rest of the story.

After rereading this quote I think the build up these 2 artifacts tied to the Rakatan invasion isn't just simply easter eggs but Disney mandated tie ins because Dawn of the Jedi will require the development of the force in order to defeat the Rakatan Empire.

It has to be case because Davo Sculdan explicitly mentions the Chandi Merles were stolen 25,000 years ago and we have already been told last year Dawn of the Jedi goes that far back from the original trilogy.

the " final solution" vibe i get from those discussions gives me the chills

Pro golfer Bryson DeChambeau? The name just seems way too coincidental. Who knows, this may be an Easter egg and I know names have been made in homage in SW before.

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I just need to get this off my chest. I am feeling quite deflated about Nicholas Britell not scoring season 2. Understandable as to why, of course.

However, I am feeling the lack of Britell’s influence in Season 2. It’s apparent. Brandon Roberts’ musical approach, to me, feels pedestrian and almost absent. Remixes of Niamos aside! Britell’s season 1 score is so immersive, contextual, experimental and other worldly. Roberts’ feels disconnected. Am I the only one struggling with this? I’m listening to Britell’s score as I write this and I just can’t help shake the feeling that Season 2 is missing out. I think Roberts was the wrong choice.

Obviously I couldn't get all the shots in because there'd be too many but this is just a few. Feel free to post your favourite shots/frames, too.

I know everyone's been buzzing non-stop about the dinner scenes between Dedra, Syril, and Eedy, but I wanted to add in my two cents to the discussion as well.

Given Dedra and Syril's frantic and perfectionist preparations for the dinner, many people assumed that they were going to be meeting with some intimidating higher-up in the Imperial hierarchy: Tarkin, maybe, or Krennic. I was definitely one of those people. When I saw Dedra's fingers twitching with nervousness while waiting for the doorbell, I thought, "Who are they having over? Darth Vader?!" Of course, the reveal that it's actually Syril's mom they've been so neurotically prepping for is hysterical, but after the episode, I was pondering over it.

It makes sense that Syril is anxious about his mom's visit; she loves to humiliate and find faults in him, and he's understandably stressed out about the possibility of this happening in front of his girlfriend for the first time. Dedra, though? Dedra who stares down ISB agents and tortures Rebels for a job? Why would she be intimidated by a nagging mother-in-law?

Then it occurred to me: Dedra never had a mother before. She has no personal experience to draw on for what to expect of this dinner with Eedy. Her only frame of reference for what level of interaction to expect is Syril—and Syril is freaking out! So of course Dedra is nervous; her one frame of reference for what to expect is treating the occasion like it's impending doom! I feel like this helps explain why Dedra seemed just as anxious as Syril about the dinner—and, consequently, why she was so willing to use ISB resources to prepare for it (i.e., pulling up the deets on Uncle Harlo). She may not know how to interact with mothers or mother-in-laws, but she knows how to put potential threats in their place, and judging by Syril's reaction, Eedy is a potent threat indeed!

So first thoughts after getting through the first 3 eps: Holy boats this is good.

It's not the relentless checking off of plot points that I suppose many were anticipating or hoping for but those were four excellent stories being told with lots of bits and pieces setting up more to come.

'I'm not sure what you're saying.', 'How nice for you' is a fantastic piece of dialogue.

The tension in all the Mon Mothma stuff was amazing. The jungle parts were a very Le Carré like way of using something apparently very small scale to imply the bigger picture. Lovely. The Bix scene was brutal but I didn't feel like it was gratuitous. The Empire is evil in all sorts of ways, large scale and small. None of it was what I predicted or expected but I don't think I would change a thing.

More please.